Top tips from a systems specialist and Moxie lover to improve your online business
In this episode of Business Chats, I sit down with Mariana from Pink Ocean VS to explore how business owners can transform their workflows with the power of automations and Moxie as a CRM. Mariana shares her journey from a horticulturist to an operations manager, her love for patterns and problem-solving, and why automating repetitive tasks is the ultimate time-saver for any entrepreneur. Whether you're new to systems or ready to level up your processes, this conversation dives into actionable tips, common pitfalls, and the real-life impact of setting up SOPs and automations to reclaim your time and focus on growth.
Most Valuable Lesson from the Conversation:
The most valuable insight is the transformative power of systems and automation in freeing up time, mental energy, and resources for entrepreneurs. Tools like Moxie, when paired with solid Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs), allow business owners to streamline processes, delegate tasks with ease, and focus on growth or creative pursuits instead of repetitive admin work.
Top 5 In-Between-the-Lines Lessons:
Automation as a Mindset Shift: It's not just about saving time—it's about reducing decision fatigue and mental clutter.
Leverage Your Strengths: Focus on tasks you're naturally good at and let systems or specialists handle the rest.
Start Documenting Early: Creating SOPs from the beginning of your business saves headaches when scaling or outsourcing later.
Trial and Error is Part of Growth: Mistakes in automation are learning opportunities; over time, you'll master the tools.
Delegate the Heavy Lifting: Hiring experts to fill automation gaps can drastically simplify and accelerate the process.
5 actionable steps you can take from this conversation:
Begin with SOPs: Set aside time to record your current processes (use tools like Loom or ChatGPT). This will highlight inefficiencies and manual tasks that can be automated.
Focus on Basic Automations: Start with simple tools like automated scheduling, email sequences, and invoicing. Build from there as you gain confidence.
Invest in Your Tools: Explore platforms like Moxie or Zapier to streamline communication, lead tracking, and workflows.
Learn the Tools or Hire Help: If the learning curve feels overwhelming, outsource the setup to an expert or take basic courses (e.g., on ClickUp or Moxie).
Prioritize Scalability: As you grow, revisit your systems regularly to ensure they're still serving your business efficiently.
Transcript:
there you are Hi how are
you I can hear you I'm wearing all pink
in brand with you you have to be you
know of course this is I'm committed
with this so can you please introduce
yourself what it is that you do because
I might not have explained it correctly
no you were right um I am a operations
manager I'm moving a little bit away
from the VA title this big movement at
the moment in Australia that a lot of
the VA are moving away from it um but
I'm still like it's it's way to explain
what I do so yeah VA appra manager SL
just you know get get done for
people exactly I love that title get
done girl you
know
professional love that you should you
should actually go for that just Rebrand
a little
bit I mean it works we're talking about
how you help people with automations and
systems and everything and we actually
met on I think on moxy's um the on the
Facebook group I love Moxy I know you
love Moxy and it has taken me a while to
automate and actually do the things that
I need to be doing inside of Moxy
because of course I'm not you but I want
you to let's just start from the
beginning I really want to know how the
hell did you end up doing this because
this is not like advertised when you are
thinking
about doing something with your life
you're are you going to be a dentist are
you going to be a lawyer oh no I'm just
going to automate for
people no you don't think about these
things well it's funny you said you
asked me this question because my
business started because I did not want
I will say um
horticulturist so I was dealing with
plants so I was selling plants to you
know landscapers gardeners people in the
industry and I just didn't want to go
back to that industry because like many
Industries is very uh misogynistic and I
was getting overworked and underpaid and
I had to commute for like 3 hours I just
had a baby I'm like I'm not this is not
this is not my life um so I said to some
I think it was my partner I'm like there
surely this a job that I can stay at
home and I just you know get things done
for people that don't want to do them
like they're not computer leader they
just can't be bothered and he said yeah
it's a virtual assistant so then I went
into this huge research Rabbit Hole a
fan of EA coaching Australia and yeah
the rest is history I'm like all right
I'm going to start my business um
because of the baby I didn't have a lot
of time so um I only had like one client
for ages and then once went to daycare I
was like okay great now it's time to
basically you know get out there put my
name out there um I had a great support
network so everyone always just referred
me to people so I had um I did social
media at the start but then I realized
this is just not what I want to do um
and then yeah I fell into automations
and how to make life better I found AI I
found zabia I just went into um Moxy and
I'm like you know people hate this
because it's a lot of brain power and
it's a lot of feeling and like if you
get one thing wrong it can just like you
know mess up your whole week and I'm
like I'm actually quite good at this I
understand it better the most and for me
it just makes sense because you just
it's a pattern and I I love patterns so
it's just easy to understand so I'm like
this is what it is I just need to sort
this out for people and make the
client experience better and make their
jobs better for them it's such a game
changer honestly the amount of time
we're talking about is soce and the
amount of time and freaking brain power
that I have Unleashed by using one of CH
G favorite word um just by having the
Sops ready and like just my emails
automated it's insane it's I don't think
think people really know that
no it send you so much um so much brain
usage I suppose because you don't have
to worry about that like if somebody
sends you a lead you don't have to be
like oh go we're going to chase them up
we're g to chase them up we're going to
chase them up it's not in the back of
your head because you're like no my
systems are going to chase them up and
they know they're going to be I'm not
forgetting them but they're being taken
care of by the systems I put in place
it's insane do you have any specific
case studies that have been
like with your CL just basically
changing everything and how they do it
and because it happened with me when I
started automating things I had so much
free time that I was like what what am I
supposed to do now I feel like I'm not
even working this is crazy um yeah I'm
the same not for my clients at the
moment because unfortunately my clients
the more I get done the more work there
is because I just keep hting little
things they're like oh no you can do
this okay you can do this you can do
this okay solve this problem I have this
other problem I'm like all right cool
let's just Al I guess that it could be a
case study you know I'm solving problems
for them now they can finding more
problems but they just have a pile of
things by the time people get to me they
have a pile of things that they need to
get done that slowly chipping away at
things and you know eventually there'll
be no pile and life will be great but at
the moment with everyone there see a
little bit of a pile for like a second
and then the pile goes back in yeah
pretty
much um but for myself yeah like I found
so much more time to do like um I create
three resources for my newsletter so
I've had more time to do that I've had
more time to create um you know content
for social media and I've had more time
for um studying more automations
studying more into Moxy um I'm a big
clickup fan so you know going to clickup
university did a couple of copywriting
and graphic design courses so it's more
time just to get those done as well it's
insane it's a world possibilities I just
absolutely love this so what would you
recommend to people that are sort of
starting their business how should they
start the process of automating things
and creating their Sops and all that um
if they're gonna it yeah your Sops you
can start from the start as soon as you
start your business like set aside 2
hours and you can use char for these you
can use subscribe AI you can use zoom or
Loom because you can create screen
recordings um and just start documenting
all your processes from the get-go so
then when something happens or when
you're bringing someone in or when your
business is scaling so quickly you can't
keep up at least you have all those
instructions you can just hand over um
rather than starting from zero and then
you know you have to create three
different manuals for three different
people know you have you have them all
from the start um and then once you
create those Sops you can actually see
where you're doing manual things and
where you're like hang on a second
there's an app for that there's an app
for this there an app for these so they
kind of go hand in hand once you create
one man you see your gaps and then you
can either hire someone to fill in your
gaps um yeah or hire someone to tell you
how to fill in your gaps with
automations
which is the ideal thing because
honestly it's a lot of thinking that you
need to do to be able to figure out what
the process is usually it's easier when
there's someone that already knows the
common processes the step by steps you
don't have to think about it you already
sort of see the gaps and it's just it's
easy easy yeah exactly like I have a
couple clients so they know how to use
zi but they're just like it's just too
hard for me to know what's trigger what
and then like setting up the steps and
you know every now and then the good
thing and the bad thing about
automations and the robots and you know
AI is that if you make a mistake it's
really really
obvious um so you have to be really
really explicit and even if you're like
oh no I've got it this is great you
probably do not write one word properly
or accidentally put in a different
custom fi or whatever and things just
you know exploit so you're like okay
great every single mistake at least it's
a learning curve and a learning
experience you're like all right I I
want doing that mistake again because I
know that this program thinks this way
and um this other program connects to
this program in this way so yes you're
always learning which is
fascinating yeah it totally it's it's a
learning curve so what do you think
would be the most common basic
automating processes that you would have
to tackle with someone that hasn't done
any of that and maybe have been in
business for a couple of years well it
depends what you're doing but the most
common automations that people are doing
without realizing they're doing actually
is um schedule meetings because people
get the um emails reminding emails and
even the confirmation emails
automatically like you you don't doing
that the program is doing that for you
um invoicing as well a lot of people
probably don't realize that that's an
automation like zero QuickBooks whatever
you're using um creating automatic
invoices again that's an automation um
so even if you think you're like oh I
don't have anything in place you
probably already do and um if you were
starting your business and you wanted to
start automating things I would yeah
automate um scheduling invoicing parts
of your client Journey as well as your
review process so if you finish with
someone up set up with your if you have
Moxy you can set up with Moxy or if you
don't you can set it up with your email
marketing um program so um in florid
before I had Moxy I had a um sequence
that I have for my finished clients that
every like the first two weeks we get a
reviewed request and then a month later
just like hey how's it going and then
six months after that they have a a
email going hey I'm still here if you
need any more help if you want anything
if you just want to chat a little catch
up so um yeah just automating parts of
your client Journey so you know that um
people that you've interacted with are
not Li hanging and your systems are yet
nurturing them that be the way yeah and
you stay top of mind that's super
important that has really changed a lot
of my interaction with clients just
being present and being like because
they forget they're doing their own
thing they're working on their business
and then they're like oh I've been
thinking about doing this actually and I
forgot to email you and then it's an
opportunity to just open the email and
be like hey actually this this and that
yeah exactly and like you said
everyone's so busy and if you just get
like a reminder or a ping or something
and you're like hang on a second I've
been thinking about this service or this
person or this
situation and um from my marketing
friends a lot of the time people take a
long time to interact with you before
they want to do a purchase or before
they want to you know engage with your
service so even just sending them an
email every 3 months um you know will be
like hey I'm ready I'm actually finally
ready to engage with your service and
it's only because I remember you exist
because of the email that you sent me
that's on your sequence obviously that's
not how thank you but that's you know
that's
not yeah that's pretty much the the same
for me do you have a specific sort of
workflow for the customer Journey when
you are working on the onboard side of
new clients like like for for example
for me as a web designer the client um
they need to schedule a meeting we talk
about their project and then there's
like the whole process do you have
something that serves standard for
almost everyone online yeah so um they
do Discovery call and then send the
contract and then once the contract is
signed send the first invoice on the
first invoice is paid um send an email
with a client welcome packet that has
basically instructions um of how what
they need to do for um my digital agency
clients it's like a checklist of how to
add them to the paid ads and the admin
side of Facebook and Instagram and Tik
Tok um with explainer videos um as well
as yeah scheduling a call because a lot
of people um don't
know how to give access to things as
well so for me as well I have a meeting
because a lot of people I do have a um
passwort manager but some people don't
like using them or things like that so
it's just an opportunity to get
everything out and um understand your
client's needs and it kind of just sets
the tone of a relationship as well so
like if someone's really hled you kind
of know that okay this person needs a
little bit more work needs a little bit
more help how do I make next
interactions less thred for them or if
this person's like I have no idea what
I'm doing or again if person super
relaxed and they're like you know this
is this is all for you to do then you
kind of know that they're not going to
need as much help because you're going
to be doing most of the things so um
yeah setting up a meeting client welcome
kit um I use my client portal in Moxy
and that has everything in it so it has
videos expl uh vide explaining how to
use my password manager how to use click
Hub the clickup folder the Google drive
folder as well um my scheduler they need
to schedule a meeting with me rather
than going through all my emails trying
to find a link it's all everything
everything they need for me is on that
client portal and that's that's one of
the things I about Moxy I know I sound
like a salesperson for Moxy but um same
I mean I'm like die hard Moxy fan me too
like um before Moxy I was using clickup
as my CRM because you know budget and I
tried D and I was like I just can't for
some reason that interface I just hated
it absolutely hated it couldn't get
couldn't get across it so as soon as
like Moxy came around I'm like this is
it this is where I go you know head head
in and they keep um updating and
releasing new features that you know it
just it's like like CHC would say it's a
game changer um
so yeah trying to rather than doing
everything manually or everything um
through click C which C's also pretty
great but it's you know it's not a CRM
um yeah Moxy just does everything from
point of contact to my onboarding to my
continuing um and my offboarding as well
actually I have a sequence it's like
this is all the things that youit for me
this still your Google drive folder I
recommend you copy it because you know
use time I'm probably going to Archive
it or something um and yeah that's you
know the whole nurturing sequence till
six months after after they finish with
me it's all in Moxy so yeah I I actually
need to do that I haven't set up the the
nurturing sequence after they end up
working with me I just finished it as an
at I think onboarding offboarding and
then it's just manual I really need to
sit down and work on that I'm so
obsessed with Moxy but I don't have the
time oh know that's the thing thing is
like you kind of have to have the time
and if you're like me just finishing the
last yeah I was so busy with client work
I released a new service and I didn't
realize I hadn't updated my Moxy
workflows so this one client that I
booked in that on boarded just before
the holidays she was getting all my
automated emails and she was like what
the hell's going on why am I getting
these emails I already agreed what's
happening and I'm like oh God this is
where this is where you really need to
always check your processes almost
monthly if you can just to make sure
that you not um yeah M secondly emailing
people that you shouldn't be emailing
lucky she's not um upset about her but I
was like this is not this is not a good
look you know this is not a
brand yeah but you live you learn and
then you fix it and then you move on to
something even better I love that we
actually need to we have pending working
on a couple of Moxy
tutorials sorry I'm working on tutorials
on Moxy tutorials yes we have been
about it and we haven't actually done
it yeah I really need to um every time I
do something on Moxy I'm like always um
like wearing pajamas or not wearing like
real appropriate outfits so I'm like I
need to spend a whole day just recording
everything I'm doing so at least I can
like talk over it or something um but oh
by the way I found a tool today uh I'm
going to take the opportunity to share
it with you because it might help you
I'm thinking about doing this tutorials
for to post on YouTube and of course
they're going to be probably about an
hour long and I found this tool is
called Opus I think yeah
op I'm like I'm sold this is exactly
what I needed it's
insane yeah I've heard of it I haven't
used it myself but a lot of the VA um
girls in Australia they obsessed as well
because it just makes edit it everything
for you and I think literally took me
today I was downloading the videos from
business chats to just make them into
like 30 second videos for Tik Tok for
reals whatever and I just uploaded a
couple of videos to oppus literally two
minutes it downloaded the video just
split it up it told me like I would put
this in the in the cover of this video
because it's missing a little hook and
then it needs this at the end a call to
action but this is your video under 30
seconds and then the subtitles
everything ready I was like that's great
this is insane yeah I should get on to
that so I can I have so many tutorials
that I want to put out there that I'm
just like I just need to do it but again
like you say I'm just not that I don't
want to create content I love creating
content is just taking the time and
effort to create something that
understand because I can talk for hours
about things but a lot of the time
people like I have no idea what you're
saying you know
so social media I think that works
because people are like okay but what do
you mean and then you have engagement
and then you can reply like which is
annoying to me because I feel like I
need to give out all of the answers
right away so people have no questions
but then for social media is
counterintuitive I guess I don't know
it's a very strange world out there it
is it is and um you know love social
media I'm obsessed but also it's the of
my
existence I know girl same so if someone
wanted to work with you start uh
automating their systems their processes
what do they need to do what's the first
step um so you can go on my website and
I have a little Moxy form on there um
and they can fill it in and they'll get
it on aut email to book a schedule to
book a discovery call with me and we can
talk about what they need to do how they
want to get it done what the timeline
ISS Etc or if they want ongoing support
as well I have room for one more
retainer client um I also love the
clevering people's digital Liv so if
they just want someone to come in and
clean up the canva or the Google drive
or their emails so much fun
yes
can you hear me I can't hear
you I can't hear
you I can't hear Oh no you're back I'm
back yeah yes um sorry I have this timer
on my phone that I'm only allowed to be
on social media for like half an hour
and it's already G like sorry you use
your time so oh my
God
yeah um that's right I can't I can't
figure out how to turn it off um anyway
uh yes everything's on my website um on
my linking bio as always on Instagram I
got all my links um if people want to um
just have a quick chat with me I have a
pick my brain Service as well if people
just want to come in know everything
literally have a look into my brain um
we spend an hour and then people get
resources after that because I just I
like creating things and I like to um I
guess educate people and just show
people how to do things and are easier
so um if people want to sign up to my
newsletter as well I do a monthly free
Resource as well for online service
providers um yeah so some other um
resources I've done before is um you
know email templates or um goal planners
or um the one I'm doing this month is
how to map out your client Journey
because I've been doing a few for my
clients I'm like well people sometimes I
know how to do it
so um that's amazing yeah and so yeah um
Instagram Tik Tok I'm on LinkedIn as
well you know every now and then I'm not
very corporate so sometimes don't really
like to be in there but um mostly
Instagram so if and threads I'm actually
pretty pretty big on thread not that I'm
big like I love threads because it's
just everyone's just saying the random
things and I'm like hey this is VI theen
yeah the twi Bros only just arrived so
it hasn't been ruined yet but we'll see
how it goes yeah awes okay amazing I
love that I'm definitely going to sign
up to your email list I didn't even know
that you had one for some reason to sign
up much lately I keep yeah I
have plan and I always I always go Rogue
so I also need someone to tell me stop
going rogue follow your plan
same yeah for sure same we should
actually talk about in the future making
a little maybe Moxy course or something
for new business owners that want to set
it up because I feel like it's easy to
use but at the same time in the
beginning you have to get used to it
it's a big it's a big setup yes I have a
couple of um I've done a couple Moxy
builds so I have a couple of resources
that um I've created a while so once I
like make him really amazing I'll share
them with you at the moment they still
in the testing stage um but a spread
shet basically and you map up your whole
workflow and um with pipeline stages and
what happens before and after because I
know people love spr so that's also
that that's awesome I love that this is
going to be so helpful for everyone that
watches I'm going to split up this video
and I will tag you everywhere so you can
share it too
but thank you so much for waking up so
early to be here with me all right
summer in Australia so the sun's already
shining and it's already like 100
degrees up here oh than you I love that
that's amazing well thank you so much
again for being here I hope you have a
great day talk to you soon than for
having me and thanks everyone bye bye
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